#220 - What it SHOULD be like working with an Accountant, with John Saade
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Let's be honest - calling your accountant isn't typically something you look forward to. For most business owners, it's surrounded by dread and procrastination. But here's the thing: it doesn't have to be that way. In fact, it shouldn't be.
Today I want to share what it's actually like to work with an exceptional accountant, my friend John Saade, because once you experience the difference, you'll realise what you've been missing all along.
Breaking the Accountant Stereotype
John Saade isn't your stereotypical accountant. He's vibrant, approachable and has completely redefined my understanding of what an accountant should be. During out chat, we tackled the typical stereotypes that make accountants seem unapproachable or dull. Spoiler: John is anything but.
From the first time I started working with John and his team, I realised how essential it is to work with someone who actually gets it. It goes beyond crunching numbers; it's about forging a genuine connection, understanding your goals and working alongside you to achieve them with trust and authenticity.
Why John Does What He Does
John's commitment to small business owners comes from a deeply personal place. Born from his own family's experiences with financial stress, he's devoted his career to helping others avoid similar pitfalls. That personal connection to the work drives everything he does and underpins his dedication to securing financial peace for his clients.
This isn't just a job for John - it's a mission. And you can feel that difference in every interaction.
The Peace of Mind Factor
Finding the right accountant is like finding the right business partner. It's about trust and connection. With John, I've found the peace of mind every business owner craves. He and his team handle the financial complexities so I can focus on what excites me about running my business.
One memory perfectly captures what it feels like to have the right accountant on your side: I once reached out to John in a complete panic about what felt like a massive issue. John, even while on a family holiday, calmly reassured me and helped put everything into perspective. That kind of personalised care makes all the difference between an accountant who just files your returns and one who's genuinely invested in your success.
What to Look For
If you're contemplating whether it's time to engage with an accountant, or if your current situation isn't living up to expectations, here's what matters: their values should align with yours, and you should feel they genuinely care about your success.
The right accountant doesn't just manage your numbers - they provide transformative peace of mind that empowers you to focus on your business's bigger picture. John embodies these qualities, making him not just an excellent accountant but an invaluable business partner.
Your Next Step
When I went through our brand evolution to TM Legal Atelier, many people assumed I had an extensive team behind the transformation. The reality? It's about having the right people, like John, by your side.
If you're ready to experience what working with the right accountant actually feels like, John's details are in the show notes. Trust me - once you find the right fit, you'll wonder how you ever managed without them.
What's holding you back from finding an accountant who truly supports your business vision? The difference between adequate and exceptional support is life-changing.
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[00:00:48] Tracey: Hi everyone. Welcome back to another episode of the Rise Up in Business podcast. Thank you for joining me for another episode, and if this is your first welcome. A couple of episodes ago I shared all about what went into the brand evolution to TM Legal Atelier, and I've shared with you in recent episodes some of the really important people that go into supporting me in my business and on my business journey that make things like such a powerful brand evolution possible. And as I shared a couple of episodes ago.
[00:01:23] I have received such overwhelming congratulations and warmth and messages of celebration in relation to the new brand, and I'm so grateful for that. So many people have asked me, my goodness, you must have quite the team behind you. Who are you working with to make all of this possible? And it's so interesting because it's such a flattering question, and I'm so grateful that the brand has been received the way that it has.
[00:01:49] What I wanted to share and what I have been sharing is a bit about the journey, my business journey, and who some of the core pillars are that support me and my [00:02:00] business on the journey, because the brand evolution wasn't just about here's three or four months worth of work to come up with and create a new brand and a new website. There's so much more to it than that.
[00:02:11] I shared Michelle Broadband with you recently who has been a key pillar on my business journey and continues to be and in today's episode I'm going to share with you my accountant, John is somebody who is very important on my business journey, John and his team, and it's not what you'd think.
[00:02:32] So as I say in the episode to John. I didn't run my brand past him. He didn't see my logo, none of that. But it's not about that. It's about so much more than that, and it's about the journey and it's about the support that gets us there. And I've wanted to bring John onto the podcast for a long time because I've wanted to talk about what it should be like working with an accountant. And the reason for that is because in my experience, the perception around accountants and lawyers are very similar in that they are not necessarily approachable or it's dull or it's boring or it's overwhelming or you don't know where to start, or ugh, don't really wanna reach out and talk to an accountant.
[00:03:08] I don't really wanna reach out and talk to a lawyer. I'm very different. I pride myself on that and my clients give me that lovely warm feedback frequently and John also is very different and that's why he and his team are my accountants so I wanted to bring him on and we have such a fabulous, raw, open, and honest conversation around John's passion, where it came from, what his vision is, what sets him apart, and why he's so approachable. He's so lovely. He's so down to earth, but my goodness, they're so competent. They're so good at what they do. They are light years ahead of other accountants that I've worked with, of others that I've been exposed to both in litigation days and just in business generally.
[00:03:53] They really are. Which is why he's coming onto the podcast, so I can have this conversation and you can [00:04:00] glean an insight into what it's actually supposed to be like working with an accountant. It's so important. It's so important to have a good business lawyer as a part of your team. Equally so, a good accountant.
[00:04:13] I hope you love this conversation. We had a really great time recording this as you can tell. I'll come back in here and chat to you a bit more at the end.
[00:04:29] John, hello and welcome to the podcast.
[00:04:32] John: you going Tracy?
[00:04:33] Tracey: It is so good to have you here, John. We have been talking about having you on to have this conversation for so long.
[00:04:39] John: I know, I can't believe it's finally happened. I'm pretty sure this is how we first met. We were gonna tee up the podcast and then we forgot to do that and did about a hundred other things, and now we're back. We've circled back around to podcast.
[00:04:49] Tracey: And we've circled back and I'm so pleased that we have, when I first wanted to bring you onto the podcast, there was a couple of reasons for that. One is because as you know, as we all know, there's lawyers and there's lawyers, and there's accountants, and there's accountants, and finding a good accountant that you can actually connect with and be supported by. Is really rare and I have found that with you and your team, and so I wanted to introduce you to my listeners for that reason.
[00:05:21] but the second reason is because I want my listeners to know from this conversation what it's supposed to be like working with an accountant. I don't know if you get this conversation well, if you get the question as much as I do, but when people reach out to me, they say, oh, I've been putting off reaching out for so long because lawyers are off putting and dry and I didn't know where to start.
[00:05:43] But you are really nice and you are really warm and and you are really helpful. And the same goes for you. And I just wanna showcase that a little bit on this episode so people can actually get an insight on what it's supposed to be like.
[00:05:55] John: Thank you very much. It's, um, very flattering to hear that from you, obviously. Um, you know, I don't [00:06:00] go around tooting my own horn, but it's very nice to sit, you know, on the other side and hear, you know, hear you say something like that. So I, I, I, I do wanna say this. We've worked with you as a client as well in the legal space, and it's exactly true what you're saying.
[00:06:12] Um, it's not a typical experience working with a lawyer. it's not typical working with you compared to what we have done working with other lawyers. And I think a lot of what we do there is similar, and I think the basis is, uh, relationship and trust and, um, that relationship and trust building with our clients, um, is similar to how you would do it.
[00:06:32] It's that workout. Who your client is, know them really well. Something in our officer is talking about with our entire team in training. It's like if you don't dunno your client, you don't know their industry, their family, their scenario, you've got no right giving them advice. You have to get to know who you're dealing with.
[00:06:47] Every single person is a different case um, and you, you have to understand the specifics, the actual sensory of who they are, what they're trying to achieve, where they've come from, where they're going, and understand that in a way, uh, without judgment and then you're gonna build that foundation of trust.
[00:07:03] Tracey: We connect on so many levels and I'm so glad that you said that. Let's go back a step, John, and let me just ask you this. I know the answer to this, but I'd love you to share this. Why do you care? Why do you care so much about supporting small business owners?
[00:07:16] John: You know, initially when I got into accounting, I didn't realize at the time that I would care this much. I mean, I was a young, young guy coming through school. I was looking for a way to, I was in love with my girlfriend at high school Sarah, who I ended up marrying. We got two kids, one on the way. Yeah, it was a lovely high school sweetheart story but I was looking for a way to make some money, work out how I'm gonna buy a house, get outta my parents' home, and I just wanted a, like, a strong career, but I didn't realize that embedded in the, you know, subconscious of my childhood was a lot of pain around financial stress, financial pressure, um, hardship around small business.
[00:07:50] My dad was a small business owner. He had a taxi business. He was a taxi driver. He rented out taxis. And I believe because of bad advice and [00:08:00] a lack of understanding of the tax system and structuring, legalities, his business ended up failing and we lost a family home and subsequently, uh, my parents' marriage broke up and there's a lot of heartache around that.
[00:08:10] So financial pressure leads to personal, relational stress and then that leads to family issues and breakdown and having seen that, um, and then realizing I found myself in an industry where I could actually work with small business owners to prevent those situations from happening around structuring around losing your home.
[00:08:31] You know, I, I was saying on the weekend, I'm not in the business of letting the ATO take my clients' homes. I wanna structure things in a way where I'm protecting clients, making sure clients understand their numbers, making sure they're minimizing their tax so that those small business owners can go home and focus on being mums and dads, husbands, wives, be there, be present and not mentally stressed about is the ATO coming after me? And, and then if that happens, the downstream effect from that is little Johnny in another home somewhere isn't hearing his parents fighting about BASS or tax or ATO. That's where the passion definitely comes from, and, we fed that into the business and we built the vision around loving and caring for small business owners to make their lives better.
[00:09:15] Tracey: Thank you so much for sharing that. That just lays the framework for exactly why it is that you do things the way that you do and I love that you've just contextualized that so genuinely, so openly. That just makes so much sense on so many levels. I've heard you on podcasts before. In fact, the very first time I ever heard you talk was on a podcast and you were sharing a lot about your background and your dad and, and how that all came to be and then your, one of your business partners I knew, he connected us and then you and I have started talking and working together, and I'm your client and you're my client and you know the rest is history, as they say. It is a very happy family.
[00:09:57] You look after so many of my clients because I [00:10:00] get asked for referrals a lot and I don't always give them, but when I do give them it's hand on heart and one of the great things about the timing of this conversation is we launched our rebrand at the beginning of the month. Since then, I've been overwhelmed with the love and support and congratulations that have come from my community. Some people that I haven't connected with before, many of them, my clients, but what they've all asked me is, how on earth have you pulled it off Tracey? How did you get this far along and do a massive rebrand like this? And you must have a mammoth team behind you. Tell me who your coach is. Tell me who you're working with. Don't have a coach, don't have a massive team but the ones I do have are really, really important to me because it's a journey.
[00:10:45] It's not just a three or four month rebrand and let's do all the design stuff. It's what comes before that and you and your team have been instrumental over the past couple of years for me in bringing it all up to a level where you can go, actually we've now hit new levels in the business in terms of yes, sure, the numbers, but also the vision, the clarity, but the support and I'm answering some of these people and it got me thinking, how do I answer this?
[00:11:13] How do I say it? My accountant's been really important. My business strategist has been really important. I didn't ring John and ask him what he thought of my branding. I didn't ring John and ask him what he thought of my logo, but I didn't need to because John and his team have positioned me to be in a point in the business journey where I've got so much confidence with what I'm doing going forward, there's no doubt in relation to the business, that's what you bring.
[00:11:36] John: No, thank you very much. And, and, and congratulations on the rebrand, obviously. And, and, um, that's great. We love seeing you grow and you know, we wanna be along the journey with the client. So I say to clients all the time, if you are stressed about accounting, tax, your numbers, you're not gonna feel free enough to pivot, take risks and make decisions in the best interest of your business. So if accounting and tax is [00:12:00] front of mind for you as a business operator every minute of every day, let's be honest. I mean, you should know, you know, what your numbers are, but there, there's probably a problem there. If we're there working with our clients and you feel safe that your BASS, your tax and everything is gonna be dealt with on time and right, you can actually go back and think, okay, let's look at the marketing of the business.
[00:12:21] Let's look at sales. Let's look at the production operations, how can we grow those things? How can I expand? You're not constrained. So you're a hundred percent right. We didn't give you any advice on rebranding or marketing 'cause that's not our expertise and we wouldn't even step, we wouldn't even step into that side of things.
[00:12:35] But when, you know, when you did come on board, we did specifically look more at numbers and tax and things like that and we hear that from clients all the time. They understand now that they're getting consistent feedback on their numbers and on their tax and they know what they're looking at.
[00:12:50] They can actually grow their wings and fly and, and do all those, all those things they want to do. So I do want clients to be invested in their numbers. Like I do want you to think about, okay, what's my revenue? What's my profit? You know, where's my tax at?
[00:13:05] But I, I want it to just be there as a in that place of understanding, not necessarily right up here, you know taking up a lot of head space and making a lot of noise. So if you feel like you're accounting tax is noisy, you're taking it home with you, it's, it's a burden, it's probably a mess and you probably need someone to come in and help guide advisory structure and clean that up. if you know absolutely nothing about it, it's probably also a mess as well. There's that, you know, the Goldilocks sort of, you know, not too hot, not too cold. There's a place where you're accounting and numbers need to be, and it's somewhere in that middle space where you're aware of it, it's taken care of, you're not stressed out but it's not eating up too much time and, and, uh, mental energy.
[00:13:45] Tracey: And I think also, if I can just expand on that, John, I think you're right. You've hit the nail on the head. You need to be aware of it. You need to have the confidence, but you don't need to be stressing about it every day. How do you find this is the question, how do you find an accountant and a team that you can connect with [00:14:00] where you can get that peace of mind?
[00:14:01] And so many of my clients and myself included, have had really negative experiences with accountants, much like they have with lawyers. Go, oh my goodness. Another lawyer. Oh, great. Fantastic. Last thing I wanna do is reach out to another lawyer. And many clients say the same thing about accountants, but it's like a relationship or it's like a marriage I say always. It's gotta feel right and you've gotta feel heard and you've gotta feel supported and if you don't, and if it's not right, move on.
[00:14:29] Find another partner, find another accountant.
[00:14:32] John: I I say this to we, we do a new client leads every week they come in, we believe the small business owner is the hero of the community and our goal is to help small business owners across Australia achieve their goals and dream. But helping them is what drives us. Okay. So we get out of out of bed every day in the morning, not to make a wage, not to make a profit, not to get away from our families. It is a purpose in this society, in this community we're building in this, in this country. We have a function. Our function is to help you. When we're having that introductory meeting, we set it as we are offering our services to help you but I say this to them all the time.
[00:15:09] I need you to have a good think about, like, I'll you come into our office or jump on a Zoom. I'll tell you our vision, our mission. I'll tell you how we help people. I'll show you our Google reviews. I'll give you our pricing. I'll give you all the information. You need us to make a decision, but what you need to work out is if you believe you can trust me and my team.
[00:15:27] Okay? If you think you can trust us with your accounting and your numbers, we're the right accountant for you. If you think there's something, if we've given any indications to you, the way we talk, something you've seen online or anything gives you doubt, then I would not change accountants or use us.
[00:15:45] I would say you need that gut instinct that you can trust this person because financial matters are very intimate. Okay? And if you, if you're gonna talk about money in the bank, tax, liabilities, it becomes personal. It [00:16:00] becomes discussions about families, husbands, wives, employees, and it's not transactional, especially as a business owner, firstly the tax system's very onerous. There's a lot of lodgements. There's, you know, a lot of year ends, quarter ends, and then there's tenure. These relationships on average are 10 years. So I think it's, um, more, you're more vulnerable talking about your numbers with your accountant in some ways, then you'd be standing naked in front of a doctor. Do you know what I mean? Because it's, it is like the most personal thing is, you know, is, is your money and your financial situation. So if you can't leave that discovery meeting with the accountant, feeling trust, feeling a connection with them, I think everything else becomes insignificant.
[00:16:39] So trust your gut instinct and trust the vibe you're getting and then all the sensory will come in after that. Do they have good Google reviews? Do they have a good record of the ATO? Is their pricing fair? You can look at all the details, but you need that overall intuitive gut instinct and vibe to, to work and then that, once that's out the way, you can go into, okay, let's look at The bits and pieces.
[00:17:01] Tracey: I love that you framed it that way, John. You're so right. You're so right and that's so honest to say it that way. Clients ask me, what does it look like to to speak to an accountant? Do I have to go through a process? No, I'll connect you with John, and then you set up a Zoom, or you make a time to go and meet him in his office and have that conversation.
[00:17:18] They also ask me, but what about after? What's the after support? So I share a story, and I don't know if you'll remember this, you probably will, but because we are the right fit, because I made the decision to work with you and trust you with all of my husbands and my financials and the business financials, I can be really highly strung.
[00:17:36] You know this. My listeners know this, my clients know this. I'm very open about this, and I had an issue once early on in our relationship and I sent you a message and told you that something really serious had happened and I needed to talk to you and you got back to me within the space of two hours and bless your heart, you were actually on leave. I didn't know that. But because I'd said it was [00:18:00] serious, you stepped away from your family to ring me. You said to me, alright Trace, is this a you problem or a me problem? I went, no, John, this is an US problem. This is really serious. You said, all right. What is it?
[00:18:13] And I told you and you laughed and you said, this is a you problem. This is not a me problem. This is bigger in your head. Let me talk it through. And you were right. Not only that, and you talked to me off the cliff and you put it into context. Your team, because you were on leave, had it sorted within 48 hours.
[00:18:30] And I love sharing that. The way you said it, is this a you problem or a me
[00:18:34] problem?
[00:18:35] It was a me problem.
[00:18:36] John: I remember the, um, conversation, and it's funny you say, I talked you off a cliff because I was actually standing on a cliff face when I had that conversation. I was on, I was, I was down south of the coast somewhere at the beach somewhere, and I was looking down at the water from a very high vantage point trying to talk you off the, uh, you know, off the cliff.
[00:18:56] Tracey: This is a fabulous story though, because it, in my mind, it was really big but you knew it wasn't. You supported me from where I was at, not dismissing me, not telling me it was silly, not telling me I was being highly strung. You heard it and then you just fixed it and that's what it's like.
[00:19:11] So that's a story that I tell clients often and why I really wanted to share it on here because that's what it should be like in my view working with an accountant that's really a part of your team
[00:19:20] John: Yeah. Can I, can I give you the behind the scenes on what, what we are doing or what we're thinking in a time like that? I say to my staff all the time, there's the pathway and there's the people. Okay. So often, accountants miss the mark with relationship because they're pathway people. Accountants tend to be people that want to do tax right?
[00:19:40] There's a rigid set of rules. This is how you do it. You know, you follow this how to process. This is how you lodge a BASS. This is how you lodge a tax return. What accountants are not trained in and, and these types of people don't naturally gravitate to the profession, is people. Okay. And the hardest part of training my staff is taking people that are typically on, you're really good [00:20:00] at technical things and teaching 'em how to manage relationships.
[00:20:03] I, I say to my team members, I go, okay, if a client is concerned, they're feeling some sort of pressure or stress, you need to first internally work out for yourself what process wise, like what's the pathway? So get clarity for yourself about, okay, this is the problem, this is the solution.
[00:20:20] But the bigger part of relationship building trust and having tenure with clients is how you deliver that information. Okay. So if you just beat them over the head with the, this is the solution, you're very abrupt, blunt, and you're not catering to the fact that there's a person behind the business owner or behind the business, you're not gonna get the sort of relationship that me and you have Tracey, right?
[00:20:42] Where I actually realize that, okay, someone's stressed, they're a person first. This is actually serious for them. I've seen 1000 late lodgement notices in my life. They haven't, right? So I need to bring them up to speed into the fact that, okay, your level of anxiety right now, you know, may is justified.
[00:21:03] But let me tell you, from my experience, I may have been through this, this, and that, and I know that in this certain time horizon, we're gonna see the other side of this and you're gonna be fine. Can you trust me? Let me hold your hand on this experience and then I'll paint a picture for you now about these are the steps we'll follow, and this is how we resolve it.
[00:21:21] But power is when you actually tell people to do things and then when they do those things, they get a good result. So if I told you to trust me and I said we can solve that, and then you didn't get a good result, if we didn't get the outcome, then the next time something like that comes up, you are not gonna trust me.
[00:21:40] So I need to build power in our relationship by saying to you do this, this, and that, and I'm gonna do this, this, and that and when we do this, you'll get this outcome. If that happens enough times, you're gonna trust me. Okay? And then the people side of the pathway, people equation is solved and we can now have a long term relationship [00:22:00] where the dynamic is right.
[00:22:01] Tracey: Brilliant. Thank you for putting all of that into context and the way that you think, and that's why it makes you different, you've just explained it. That's why it makes you different. That's why it works and that's so important for people to know, John, because like I've said, I really wanted to share you with my listeners.
[00:22:18] I share you with my clients if I think they're a good fit but this is it. And this is a just a little bit of insight into what drives John, what has ignited this passion in John, why John cares. The rest is up to, to the client and to you in those sessions to see whether or not there's that chemistry because it's gotta be there.
[00:22:38] I love that.
[00:22:39] John: absolutely. You're most welcome and thank, thanks so much for giving me the platform and having this chat with me. I mean, I've got a thousand questions I wanna ask you, but I feel like I'm gonna have you on our podcast for the chat soon and hopefully we can ask you the very same questions.
[00:22:53] Tracey: I would love that and I'm glad you mentioned that. Tell us about the Lat Chat because we're going to put the links in the show notes, so I'm gonna put links in the show notes for how people can find you, the website, and my best advice to people is to reach out and connect with you, send an email, book a meeting, and then you can have a conversation just like this to see whether you're a good fit.
[00:23:10] But the Lat Chat is a very cool podcast, and gosh, you have some good guests on there. I would be honored and the conversations are so fun. How did that start?
[00:23:19] John: We weren't much of a marketing house probably five years ago. We were focused on being good technicians, working out processes and how to build a business. And then we got to the point where we got pretty good with that and we thought, okay, the only thing that would make this business better right now is to turn on the tap in marketing and actually get more leads through the door.
[00:23:37] And one of the ways we thought we can do that is social media, but at the same time we'd merged with Jacob and came in as a client director with us and he started speaking about refining our vision and working out who our client is and like I've said to you, we wanted to, um, work with small business owners. So we said, okay, what better way to connect with small [00:24:00] business owners than actually creating a platform for them to come on and share their journeys? So we created the Lat Chat podcast. We bring on small business owners. I think we're sitting at 50 or 60 episodes where they come on, share their story, share their journey, what they've learned, where they come from, and um, you know, it's not the world's biggest podcast by any means, but you know put the clips out on TikTok and Instagram and LinkedIn everywhere else, and they get some, you know, good views and it's just a good way for people to see our faces and then funny enough, um the big impact that has for our business is a lot of our clients get to see our faces more regularly and, and hear from us and find ways or reasons to connect with us.
[00:24:39] So it helps build the community within the community. It's not so much outreach, but just for the, you know, the people in the fold already. They're consuming the content, hearing things coming up with, you know, questions for us and we love it. You know, it's, it also lets us as accountants do something fun, you know, get away from doing tax and BASS.
[00:24:58] Tracey: it is fun. It is fun, and you guys are fun. You can see that from your social media. You can see all of that. You are also serious and you don't see that on the, on the socials, but I can say you're also very serious and you're also very capable. And you know, I think we both share the vision of there's no such thing as perfection, but we can all strive for excellence.
[00:25:15] And you certainly talk the talk, you walk the walk. So, but there's such a fun side, and I'm going to include the link to that podcast in the show notes so that people who aren't in the fold can join the fold and follow along and, and get some insights firsthand to see what it's like.
[00:25:30] John: we're 100% happy to bring people into the fold. So, you know, if there's anyone who thinks they may need a, an accountant or wanna have a chat, we do free initial consults and we'd speak to anyone who wants to come in. But, on the fund side, it's funny you mention that. I just wanna say, um, we are very serious and accounting is very serious and the conversations are real and they're big dollar conversations. So people look at our, um, socials and they say, oh, you guys are just having so much fun all the time. We record most of our content in short [00:26:00] bursts and then Clip farm it and, and, and send it out over, you know, weeks and months.
[00:26:05] So, you know, I'd love to say we're having that much fun, that much fun all the time, but it's, it's just not the case.
[00:26:12] Tracey: I have every confidence that a lot of hard work gets done and I've taken tips from you in fact, I dunno whether you realize it, but just little insights you've shared about the way the team structured their day, you know, the client delivery work, the deep work. I've refined my processes too, just after taking little tidbits here and there, little nuggets of gold get dropped in some of our conversations. So there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes that makes you guys, I suppose, grow and have the presence that you have and the community that you have and for other professionals like me to be able to say hand on heart, you will be in good hands here. So it's, it's great to see the balance.
[00:26:47] John, thank you so much for joining me and I have absolutely loved this conversation. I think we could talk for days, but we won't, but we will do it again.
[00:26:54] John: Thanks Tracey. Appreciate you having me on and I'm gonna hold you to the fact that you said you're coming on the Lat Chat podcast. That's Yeah, I look forward to it.
[00:27:02] Thanks John. You can see why we work well together, I'm sure. And you can see that we just connect and it's such fun. And that's probably not something that you ever expect to hear people say when they talk about working with their accountant or in fact working with their lawyer.
[00:27:17] Tracey: I'm going to include John's details in the show notes and if what he shared resonated and if you're scratching your head and you're thinking, oh gosh, it doesn't feel like that for me with my accountant or I've been putting off reaching out to a small business accountant for so long because I didn't know where to start or all the things, it might just be worth reaching out and having a chat to John and seeing if you're a good fit and if that connection's there. And if it is, great, and if it's not, like I say often, and like we said in the episode, keep looking because it's a relationship that is so important. I thoroughly enjoy working with John and his team.
[00:27:55] I have so much confidence in them, which is why my husband and I use them, which is why they look after all of [00:28:00] my business accounting and tax matters. It's a really important relationship to me, and it's one that I value dearly, as I'm sure you can tell from what we shared in the episode.
[00:28:09] As always, thank you so much for joining me. I'll catch you next time.
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